Turnkey Reseller Account

[dst]

Just thought I would suggest a true turnkey reseller account.

White label:

• Host nine Reseller
• WHMCS & help files/flash files
• Website with packages and prices already available and easy to edit
• Domain reseller setup
• Perhaps turnkey business templates
• Perhaps some joomla templates

Just an idea, others are now offering this and it would make sense for newbie resellers such as myself.

p.s. BEFORE ANYONE SAYS DO i WANT PIZZA too

the answer is No

A button to order a 24oz blue steak might be good though .

Hiya,

It's a good idea for a very large company with a lot of staff, not so much for a budget hosting company. It is an interesting idea though

[dst]

Hi Joshua

I know it started with large comps but of late have seen smaller ones pop up here and there.

Don't know how they are doing it as prices are no different to budget hosting comps.

Dang even seen a few on uk ebay last week.

It sounds as if host9 are 90% there to this sort of thing as are most comps, I guess it is alsways the last few percent that is the hardest and longest lol.

Still if you dont suggest these things we become static.

[danuk]

My concern is, if anyone really is that much of a newbie that they can't set this all up themself, Should they really be running a hosting company?

[kingaman]

Personally I think that this is almost like cheating. As already said, something that can't do this themself (or pay someone to do it) really shouldn't be running a hosting company. Setting up any descent company requires a lot of work and/or money, and the idea of this takes all the away. Plus it will also increase the number of cheap hosting companies that have either shocking service, support or both. These are really hurting our already over-populated industry.

[DiverseHosting]

Do you think that not having these options would be a deterrent from starting a hosting company?

I have found several hundred people (that is in no way an exaggeration, if anything an understatement) that start a "hosting" company without knowing the first thing about hosting (or any part of the business).

IMHO, whether you are a reseller, or have a dedicated, if you don't know how DNS works, if you don't know what SSH is and how to use it, if you don't know a hundred other basic principals, then you have no business starting (or running) a hosting company.

In my experience, lack of knowledge in the area has not prevented many people from doing exactly that. Many see these types of businesses as low-maintenance money-makers.

So, while I completely agree that if a person doesn't have the ability to perform these tasks themselves they shouldn't be doing it anyway, I don't think that lack of turnkey packages will stop anybody from joining our "over-populated" industry... Only if wishing made it so

And that being said:

Suggestions from the OP remarked on inline

* Host nine Reseller - H9 has reseller packages
* WHMCS & help files/flash files - This is already included
* Website with packages and prices already available and easy to edit - something wrong with all the other template sites out there?
* Domain reseller setup - You can't resell domains?
* Perhaps turnkey business templates - See above
* Perhaps some joomla templates - http://www.google.com/search?q=joomla+templates

[dst]

I guess this is where newbies run for cover lol.

Stuff that

Why the fk shouldnt newbies start a reseller hosting company.

They are not starting a hosting compnay inits true sense.

They are simply selling space on.

I have had 5 reseller accounts and whilst most have gone to freinds and family, all people have wanted is space to load their web and service for email with one or 2 shops, forums, sql.

I know pretty much squat about dns, but for years people have been happy.

Now for that sort of person having a ready made package saves time and time is money.

If hostnine dont do it and others take up the gauntlet then it will be one reason that others have to use other companies.

It would be like host9 never wanting thier own dedicated servers, vps etc.

You have to stay up to date with the needs of the niche you have aimed at - pure and simple.

Now dont get me wrong.

If I wanted to blast adverts out here there and everywhere selling hosting space and all of the hosting services, perhaps work from vps and eventually dedicated - OF COURSE THE LOGICAL SOLUTION WOULD BE TO DG DEEP AND LEARN.

Not every newbie that doesnt understand dns is an idiot or cowboy lol.

[DiverseHosting]

First, I wasn't directing my remarks toward you. I was commenting on what the two posts prior had said. While I do agree with them, my point was that I don'r see not offering these services as a deterrent to "overpopulating an industry".

In regards to your post... I don't agree with your thoughts that H9 should be responsible to fill that niche. There are thousands of template sites out there. There are hundreds that "specialize" in hosting templates. There is no reason for H9 (or any other hosting company) to waste their time developing solutions, which will not be profit-bearing, and which are offered free throughout the internet.

I would much rather H9 dedicate their time and resources to providing better hosting (not that it's not great now, but it can always be better).

Hosting and development are two completely separate areas. Yes, by nature H9's customers tend to need templates, but H9's customers tend to need computers as well. I don't see anybody suggesting that H9 should start selling systems. I'm pretty sure that all of H9's customers also need food. Should H9 also open a grocery store? A fast-food restaurant? Where do you draw the line at fulfilling you customers needs?

Just my $0.02

[kingaman]

I don't disagree that not offering the turnkey solution would deter anyone. Somethat wants to sell hosting will always sell it, however if a turnkey solution were offered, someone who has never considered selling hosting may see just how easy it is to do (after all the only have the spend a few dollars and then a few minutes adjusting things to their liking to get things running) that they may actually sign up. These people may never have just bought a reseller plan and done the rest themselves because they thought it would be too much work.

I also have no problem with newbies. We were all newbies once and their is quite a market in selling to family and friends, however this does not require the professional setup as suggested with the turnkey solution.

[H9Travis]

The turnkey debate always seems to bring out the extremes from both sides. We already offer practically everything a reseller could want with our packages. A billing manager capable of interacting with Reseller Central. The sitebuilder software on all our servers. Auto-install packages through fantastico and cPanel.

The thing is that some people want all of that handed to them on a silver platter where somehow money is just dumped back into their bank account. The fact is that even for us we have to go the extra mile every step of the way, there are a thousand other resellers with identical sites and the same offerings. Personally the concept of 'turn-key' is something that simply does not exist. Especially in the webhosting industry, if you aren't working every day to better your understanding of how things work then pull over and let the traffic that does through. It is an unfortunate but true reality, you have to help yourself first. Nothing pleases us more than to help people who truely want to help themselves.

Many resellers choose to find something to specialize in. Website design, PHP programming, custom management solutions. We all know the routine of the dot-com failures. We have tons of great software and solutions at our disposal to provide to our clients. All anyone has to do is ask.